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		<title>By: katiekelly</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>katiekelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that he torqued the wheels before they were fully flush against the hub. I could have explained that part better. He didn&#039;t tighten the wheels down with the breaker bar (or whatever it&#039;s called). That&#039;s the key detail.

I don&#039;t know the physics, I just changed tires just like how everyone else was changing tires, and I never ran into a problem. I even made it home from Topeka, KS, to California without a problem, so I know I was doing something right. Perhaps you could direct this to an autocross e-mail list. I&#039;d be curious to know myself. 

You say some other silly stuff that I don&#039;t feel like commenting on. You&#039;re breaking my concentration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that he torqued the wheels before they were fully flush against the hub. I could have explained that part better. He didn&#8217;t tighten the wheels down with the breaker bar (or whatever it&#8217;s called). That&#8217;s the key detail.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the physics, I just changed tires just like how everyone else was changing tires, and I never ran into a problem. I even made it home from Topeka, KS, to California without a problem, so I know I was doing something right. Perhaps you could direct this to an autocross e-mail list. I&#8217;d be curious to know myself. </p>
<p>You say some other silly stuff that I don&#8217;t feel like commenting on. You&#8217;re breaking my concentration.</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gender/pysch issues aside...

The engineering issue here confuses me. Why torque on the ground?  I coulda sworn I did it all sorts of ways, back in my E Stock days. I think my normal habit is to snug things up a fair bit with breaker bar with tire in the air, then lower car a little until tire touches some, then torque. Then lower car for real.

And I probably just touch the tire because it&#039;s a little safer. I don&#039;t feel secure with a tire or two way up in the air, if I&#039;m going to be yanking on things. (Not that I yank with my torque wrench, but, you know.)

My only guess: wheels that aren&#039;t hubcentric? Wheels without proper hubcentricity might be sensitive to this issue. Why folks live without hubcentric wheels, I won&#039;t even begin that grumble.

Another bit of wisdom I learned during my years of constant tire changing at events: it&#039;s a one person job. Talking is not good. Sure, autox is half social, but tire changing, well, one person. Go away, talkers.

I&#039;m wondering if the things were even torqued, or the torque wrench was, you know, actually set. I&#039;s pretty hard to goof this job up, even mildly firm on all four on a wee littul car like yours can hold fairly well. So I&#039;m suspecting they just weren&#039;t torqued, and I&#039;m wondering who broke his concentration. (Let&#039;s blame your mother.)

Oh, and Miata front wheels, nothing stops them from turning, no engine, no parking brake, so torquing that properly with tire in air, that might be a challenge. But presumably, the parking brake was on and/or the engine was in gear, for the rear wheels.

So, my question remains:
a) Why tire on ground, engineeringly speakin&#039;?
b) why are my comments as long as your post? Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gender/pysch issues aside&#8230;</p>
<p>The engineering issue here confuses me. Why torque on the ground?  I coulda sworn I did it all sorts of ways, back in my E Stock days. I think my normal habit is to snug things up a fair bit with breaker bar with tire in the air, then lower car a little until tire touches some, then torque. Then lower car for real.</p>
<p>And I probably just touch the tire because it&#8217;s a little safer. I don&#8217;t feel secure with a tire or two way up in the air, if I&#8217;m going to be yanking on things. (Not that I yank with my torque wrench, but, you know.)</p>
<p>My only guess: wheels that aren&#8217;t hubcentric? Wheels without proper hubcentricity might be sensitive to this issue. Why folks live without hubcentric wheels, I won&#8217;t even begin that grumble.</p>
<p>Another bit of wisdom I learned during my years of constant tire changing at events: it&#8217;s a one person job. Talking is not good. Sure, autox is half social, but tire changing, well, one person. Go away, talkers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the things were even torqued, or the torque wrench was, you know, actually set. I&#8217;s pretty hard to goof this job up, even mildly firm on all four on a wee littul car like yours can hold fairly well. So I&#8217;m suspecting they just weren&#8217;t torqued, and I&#8217;m wondering who broke his concentration. (Let&#8217;s blame your mother.)</p>
<p>Oh, and Miata front wheels, nothing stops them from turning, no engine, no parking brake, so torquing that properly with tire in air, that might be a challenge. But presumably, the parking brake was on and/or the engine was in gear, for the rear wheels.</p>
<p>So, my question remains:<br />
a) Why tire on ground, engineeringly speakin&#8217;?<br />
b) why are my comments as long as your post? Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: katiekelly</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-912</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you are not right, and actually, he did drive my car once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you are not right, and actually, he did drive my car once.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet it was Victor... come on, am I right? Fess up! OK, maybe he never drove your car, but it would be a good story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet it was Victor&#8230; come on, am I right? Fess up! OK, maybe he never drove your car, but it would be a good story!</p>
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		<title>By: indi</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>indi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, your mom let him get away with that?  *She* should have know better--but wait, she was the one giving you bad advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, your mom let him get away with that?  *She* should have know better&#8211;but wait, she was the one giving you bad advice!</p>
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		<title>By: Sex and Relationship Advice From My Mother &#187; Keep Up With Me</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex and Relationship Advice From My Mother &#187; Keep Up With Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Katie received from bad advice from her mother that almost resulted in all four wheels coming off her car [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Katie received from bad advice from her mother that almost resulted in all four wheels coming off her car [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mhernandez</title>
		<link>http://caitoceallaigh.com/2008/05/03/the-worst-advice/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>mhernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 06:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very cool post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very cool post.</p>
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